"We take a harm reduction approach. There is onsite care for safe drug injection, as well as mental and physical health support provided by practitioners in the community, all of them women, of course. We also have access to free laptops so they can do all their work online, where it is much safer than working on the street. And of course we provide daycare."
"What would be your success rate?" says Carl.
"I beg your pardon?"
"How many women have you actually been able to transition away from sex work into productive working lives."
"That isn't what we are doing."
"Well, then what are you doing? you're not simply enabling them?"
Now I can tell that Cynthia is really having to struggle to maintain civility with her distant cousin.
"For the most part, they are not ready to, as you call it, transition."
"But by keeping them in that kind of life, aren't you only hurting them in the long run. And what about the men that they service?"
"Oh to hell with the men!" and now she is clearly trying not to shout. "They are all incurable swine."
"On that point we are agreed."
"Perhaps, Carl, " she says "You might ask how many lives have been saved?"
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